Conclusion to the Core Chapters

So, let’s take the evidence that we have accumulated, and see where the Return of Jacob and the coming of Gog and Magog fit.

Are we talking about the conquest of Jerusalem by the Antichrist, the first time?

Is this Armageddon?

Or, is the salvation of Israel before all that?

Well, let’s compare what we’ve seen.

Is This The First Army Of The Antichrist?

Do the Children of Jacob return to God when the Antichrist captures Jerusalem the first time?

The answer is a resounding NO!

There is no way that the Antichrist could rule if he and his army were destroyed on the mountains of Israel. Even considering this thought is so preposterous, that I’m finding it hard to even treat such a question seriously. But sometimes, even ridiculous questions need to be answered, so let’s do that.

Ezekiel 38

Ezekiel 38 describes the army of Gog and Magog as coming from specific nations of the world, while the Antichrist has sway over the entire planet.

Also Ezekiel 38 describes Gog as the ruler of the Land of Magog. Daniel 8 describes the Antichrist as coming from one of the four kingdoms that sprang out of Alexander the Great’s empire. So, unless someone can prove that one of those kingdoms is the Land of Magog, there is no way that Gog can be the Antichrist. And, if Gog is not the Antichrist, then…

…the Return of Jacob must happen before the Great Tribulation.

If that startled you, then let me remind you that the Return of Jacob MUST happen before the Millennium. And, there are two big battles in Israel before the Millennium – the capture of Jerusalem by the Antichrist and Armageddon. Furthermore, those two battles are so close together that there’s no way to fit a third battle in between them. And, it just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever for Gog and Magog between those two battles. It just cannot happen.

Therefore, if the coming of Gog and Magog is not one of those two battles, then it must happen BEFORE the Antichrist arrives.

Well, we have proof that the Land of Magog is not in any of the areas of the world that were ruled by Alexander the Great. And, since Gog is the ruler of Magog, he cannot be the Antichrist. From that alone, you could stop reading and start working on your preparations for Ezekiel’s Fire.

The problem is whether you accept this proof. If you don’t, then we need to keep going. And, we will.

Ezekiel 39

This is where we see the fire that hits the nations of the world. I call this ‘fire’ Ezekiel’s Fire. There’s no way that this fire could happen when the Antichrist conquers Jerusalem the first time. The Antichrist would be neutralized at the beginning of his rule of terror.

Ezekiel 39 speaks of Gog being buried in the valley of Hamon Gog. It’s hard to rule if you’re dead. And, since the Antichrist is NOT buried, but thrown alive into the Lake of Fire, then the Antichrist cannot be Gog.

Zechariah 12 and 13

Zechariah 12 and 13 cannot be talking about the first time that the Antichrist conquers Jerusalem. First of all, it seems the Jerusalem succeeds in fighting off those attacking her. Secondly, all the vehicles stop working in Zechariah 12, which could only come from Ezekiel’s Fire. Again, Ezekiel’s fire would knock down everyone and everything.

Zechariah 14

Zechariah 14 is the opposite of all this. It MUST be about Armageddon, so we’ll hold off on talking about this chapter until later.

Isaiah 30

In Isaiah 30 there is nothing that points to this being about the first attack on Jerusalem by the Antichrist – for the same reasons that were given in Zechariah. If the sun becomes seven times brighter and all the buildings are knocked down, the Antichrist would not be able to rule the world or even Jerusalem.

So, Not The First Conquest Of Jerusalem By The Antichrist

There just is no way that the coming of Gog and Magog is about the first conquest of Jerusalem by the Antichrist. There is literally no way that you can fit that into any of the chapters that we have looked at.

This means that we need to look at Armageddon.

Is This The Army Of Armageddon?

Is this the army that gathers for the last battle before the Millennium, at Armageddon?

I believe that the answer is also a firm ‘no’, but the evidence behind this is more circumstantial than the previous question. But, that evidence is still pretty powerful.

Remember that the Antichrist is still in control of the nations and their armies that assemble in the Jezreel Valley at Har Megiddo. So, you must be able to prove that Gog is the Antichrist to claim that this is the same coming of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38 and 39.

Again, Gog is buried at Hamon Gog, east of the Kinneret. The Antichrist is NOT buried, but is cast directly into Hell. That’s a pretty big difference, all by itself.

Ezekiel 39 talks about how much time it takes to clean up after Gog and Magog is destroyed. The amount of time taken – nine months – appears to be too long to fit between Armageddon and the Millennium. However, that’s a somewhat weak argument.

Jeremiah 30 makes a much stronger argument against Armageddon by describing who God judges, after Gog and Magog, and why He judges them. He says that all who devoured Jacob will be devoured. This means that Ezekiel’s Fire will cause the most damage among those nations that persecuted the Jews.

Since Zechariah 14 clearly talks about Armageddon, let’s compare what that chapter says and what Zechariah 12-13 says:

In Zechariah 14, Jerusalem becomes the center of the world.

In Zechariah 12, God makes sure that Jerusalem is NOT.

In Zechariah 14, God saves Jerusalem first.

In Zechariah 12, Jerusalem comes second.

In Zechariah 14, Jerusalem is conquered, the women raped and half the city goes into captivity

In Zechariah 12, the inhabitants of Jerusalem successfully defend the city, with even the weakest being so incredibly strong that they will slay all their enemies, just like David did. In fact, the weakest woman could slay the strongest soldiers with just a few smooth stones and a sling.

In Zechariah 14, Jerusalem is rescued by God Himself.

In Zechariah 12, God gives the inhabitants of Jerusalem the supernatural strength and ability to defend themselves.

In Zechariah 14, God PHYSICALLY saves Jerusalem and Israel.

In Zechariah 12 and 13, God SPIRITUALLY saves them. And, there’s no description in chapter 14 of Israel finally returning to God. They will have been following Christ, already. After all, there’s a reason why the people of Jerusalem are going into concentration camps.

Isaiah 30 would seem to give us more of an excuse to believe that Armageddon is the coming of Gog and Magog. Both Revelation and Isaiah speak of using the sun as a part of God’s judgment. However, Revelation puts the part about the sun BEFORE Armageddon. And, Ezekiel clearly says that the fire that God sends, comes AFTER the great battle.

Then, there’s the issue of Faith. In Armageddon, Jesus Returns to the Mount of Olives and splits it in two. Everyone will see Him and KNOW who He is.

Where will there be room for salvation through faith?

I know that God can do anything He wants, in any way that He wants to do it. But, should we really be claiming that there is a new way to salvation? A way that is not based upon faith?

For Me And My House

We aren’t done looking at the evidence provided by the Bible about when the Children of Jacob return to God, but I think that we can come to an interim conclusion.

If you wish to claim that the salvation of Jacob happens during the time of the Antichrist, you must prove that Gog is the Antichrist. And, you cannot do that unless you can prove that Magog, Meshech and Tubal did not move beyond the Caucasus Mountains. And, that just doesn’t make any sense.

You would also need to show how the alliance of Gog and Magog fits the description of ‘all the nations’ that God draws down to the Jezreel Valley, at Mount Megiddo.

You would also need to throw out the principle of salvation through faith. And, I am not ready to do that.

Furthermore, Gog and Magog do not conquer Jerusalem, while the Antichrist does so, twice.

The 144 Thousand

Then, there are the 144,000 people of Israel, chosen by God in Revelation. You cannot have 12 thousand from every tribe (Revelation 7), unless you have a truly massive number of Christian Israelis to choose from. Furthermore, it appears that these are the same individuals that we see at the beginning of Revelation 14. If that’s true – and it would almost have to be so – then they aren’t just Israelis, but they are also men who are virgins. This means that there truly must be millions of Israeli Christians for this to happen.

But, even though the evidence is strong, we aren’t going to stop here. We still have a lot of supporting passages to look at.


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